The Wit & Wisdom of Martin VanBuren

Numerically, the 8th President. Objectively, the best ruler in the history of man.

November 03, 2004

Right now, I'm Pretty Glad to be Dead

They all suckSo perhaps having faith in the American people was a bit... overly optimistic.


John Kerry may perhaps still win the Presidency through some legal wrangling, but
as Joseph Stalin said, "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."


And everybody knows what a douche he was.


It seems the course of this country is set for many years to come with a staunchly partisan Republican majority in congress and very likely several supreme court justice seats changing hands firming up a staunchly conservative court.


While the sane among us will likely sob and lament the ignorance of our fellow country men, if we ever expect to do anything about it we must face the real underpinnings of the election.


Today as yesterday and four years ago, half the country is seething at the prospect of George Bush representing this country -- if history is any guide, he has little capacity or desire to do anything about this and in four more years about 50% of the country will feel exactly like it does today.


Instead of rallying the "base" what can people who believe strongly about the values of civil rights, globally respectable diplomacy, and social welfare do to combat a now likely firmly ensconced political majority.


Over the next several days, I'll be outlining a few ideas about what those of us at the grassroots level and below (SIX FEET BELOW) can do in the long, painful uphill struggle we'll be engaging in for the rest of your natural lives.


SOUNDS FUN DOESN'T IT!!!


I was lyin', so was she.
She said her name was donna,
But her shirt said marie.
Once you get to know me,
You'll never forget me.
I said why, then she bit me.

12 Comments:

Blogger dukkillr said...

Perhaps the thing that frustrates me the most about american politics is the sentiment you just expressed. Unfortunately liberals have come to believe that they are smart and everyone who disagrees with them just doesn't understand the world. Part of democracy is the realization that the will of the people may not be your will, but the will of the people should be respected. I'm sorry you don't agree, and certainly until last night you had the right to question the will of the people, but today it's clear. Bitter whining and cheap shots at the beliefs of those who disagree with you only make you look petty. Maybe, just maybe, it's you who's wrong, and not the majority of american voters.

2:23 PM  
Blogger President Martin Van Buren said...

Zach, chill, you may have noted that I said that ignorance of our fellow countrymen WAS NOT the real underpinnings of the election. I couldn't agree more that it is a cop out to simply view people who disagree with you as stupid, out of touch or worse yet just plain wrong. It's actually one of my chief criticism of our current administration -- their inability to even acknowledge, much less effectively argue against opposing view points. Over the next few days I intend to offer my party such as it is, some advice that actually helps them get beyond the currant inane level of rhetoric.

3:13 PM  
Blogger President Martin Van Buren said...

Oh and Zach, a majority isn't and never will be "the will of the people".

It is just the tool of expedience in democracy, just as the decree of a king is simply part of the expedience of monarchy -- it's a system for trying to get stuff done, confusing it with a universal mandate of a nation or of God is dangerous and unfounded.

The best governments must protect the liberties of minorities, not just impose the majority's whims.

3:28 PM  
Blogger somegirl said...

excellent point zach. i totally agree with you.

but maybe, just maybe, it's you who's wrong. someday you'll learn that part of democracy is the realization that the will of the people may not be your will, but the will of the people should be respected.

oh, and that bitter whining and cheap shots at the beliefs of those who disagree with you only make you look petty.

5:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liberal arrogance isn’t helping us much these days, but MvB wasn’t putting down the democratic process or the American people so much as our failure to live up to those ideals. Of course we’re suppose to have give and take in our country, the founders wanted there to be built in division and for people to pursue self-interest right? But Bush’s victory was about people saying “I don’t care about open-mindedness or what’s even best for me.” It was a victory for narrow thinking, isolationism and intolerance. Hating Bush was a stupid reason to vote too, but not nearly so much casting a ballot as out of fear and irrelevant moralistic grandstanding.
What’s laughable Z is you think bitter whining and potshots aren’t exactly what democracy is about and that it should stop after an election, everybody then falling in line behind the victor. It’s all a shell game, one which your side clearly pal-o, but save the moral outrage for the next you need to get somebody elected.

6:13 PM  
Blogger dukkillr said...

"While the sane among us will likely sob and lament the ignorance of our fellow country men..." this statement is what I was talking about. To me this says that only the ignorant would vote for Bush while "the sane" would obviously vote Kerry. Of course that's arrogant, and that's what my point was all about.

"It was a victory for narrow thinking, isolationism and intolerance." Same thing... never mind that declaring conservatives to be "narrow thinking" seems relatively intolerant.

I'm not asking you to fall in line... I'm just asking for a grudging respect for my opinion (and that of 51% of voters).

7:15 PM  
Blogger Isabella said...

Your 51% got the house, the senate and the presidency. Now asking for respect for your opinions? Well, thats just gluttonous.

8:14 PM  
Blogger President Martin Van Buren said...

Just cause you're crazy doesn't mean you're dumb, I should know I invented the analogy test which was totally riped off by the SAT. Sane is too insane as smart is too dumb is the correct answer.

12:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It not even respect for the opinions of those who disagree with you... It's simply an answer to your issue. If you don't want people to vote for someone, don't insinuate that they are insane or stupid for considering it... that tactic is, in itself, remarkably stupid since nobody ever responds favorably to such criticism. Arrogance cost the left A LOT of votes this election.

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